Why VVN Music Will No Longer Cover Ted Nugent

by VVN Music

VVN Music has a policy of covering ALL artists who have been recording for twenty years or more from the worlds of pop, rock, soul, country, folk and blues.  That pledge runs from the heaviest of death metal rockers to classic hip hop artists to Justin Timberlake and Donny and Marie Osmond. We don't make quality, genre or value judgement.

Until today.

Musicians are well known for occasionally being outspoken about politics from the far left to the far right and we report what they say, when we feel it is newsworthy.  The First Amendment guarantees their right to express their views and we support that.

However, as the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1919, the power of free speech does come with some responsibility.  Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. wrote "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent."

Ted Nugent has been ramping up the hateful rhetoric for years against the left.  He was even visited by the FBI after one improper comment about President Obama.

On Friday, Nugent appeared on Alex Jones' Info Wars and said words that are clearly a threat:

Just know that evil, dishonesty, and scam artists have always been around and that right now they’re liberal, they’re Democrat, they’re RINOs, they’re Hollywood, they’re fake news, they’re media, they’re academia, and they’re half of our government, at least. So come to that realization. There are rabid coyotes running around. You don’t wait till you see one to go get your gun. Keep your gun handy, and every time you see one, you shoot one.


Some will say he wasn't serious or was using exaggeration to make his point. That may be true but it doesn't mean that, to some on the extreme right, it won't be interpreted as a call to arms. Yelling "fire" in a theater, even if it was a joke, still means that you are responsible when people get hurt because they are gullible, uninformed or unaware.

This time around, Nugent took it too far. His hateful rhetoric, which is escalating on a regular basis, will no longer be part of this site nor will we promote his music activity and fame which is his megaphone for his words.

VVN Music is not a huge site.  Our move probably won't be a blip on the radar of Ted Nugent's support but we must, in our own small way, fight back against a "Motor City madman" who could be influencing radical or less-than-firm members of our society.

17 comments

Anonymous said...

The way Trump is hiring his team just from watching the TV, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ted gets a job offer to work in the White House. Ted should just play like he can and shut the heck up. Good move VVM.

derve2172 said...

Bravo

Elliott Marx said...

Thank you Vintage Vinyl News - your editorial decision makes sense to me. Ted will continue to make headlines elsewhere. I

A Guy said...

I support your decision.

CCRFAN said...

Thank you VVN! Ted Nugent needs to learn the responsibility of thoughtful and in depth political discussion. Throwing the red meat out to the extreme right of the Republican Party is the last thing this country needs.

Anonymous said...

As a long time resident of the Motor City, and growing up listening to all the great Detroit rock, I have to say, I'm fed up with Nugent. He doesn't speak for all true "Americans" and he certainly doesn't speak for Detroit.

I have tossed all my Nugent CDs and will never listen to anything he has to say ever again, whether it be music or his hate-filled ramblings.

I applaud your courage and wholeheartedly agree. Rock on VVN!

Anonymous said...

Good decision. Some folks will obviously yell, “Censorship!” The decision to not dignify his meat-headed diatribes is simply a function of good taste (in this case) on your site. You’re not censoring “The Madman’s” right to say what he wants, rather, you’re choosing not to provide him with more free publicity. Rock on!

wayne said...

So VVN has gone PC...figures..KId Rock will be next

Laura G said...

Liberal bs yet again! Put on your big boy pants and suck it up! Just because you don't agree with someones views, does not give you the right to block what they have to say. Do you agree with the rappers that "sing" about shooting police, or beating a bitch? I guess you do, because those pieces of crap are still on VVN. Hipocrits!

Anonymous said...

I have enjoyed this site for years. But no longer. Your URL has been deleted from my bookmarks.

Chris Tanner said...

Nugent is pretty irrelevant these days and when I think about it he wasn't that great in the past. Macho men with big guns. Seems that is just what the world needs these days! Well done VVN for taking a stand in the interest of human dignity and the protection of our children.

Gary Hunt said...

Well done, 100% support this !

Joe Mac Pherson said...

Thank You, for calling out pure, focused hate when you see it. Always keep me on your mailing list!

Dan said...

I support your decision. In fairness, you might want to address the point about hip-hop artists. I don't know if any of those veteran artists you post encourage violence or not, because I don't listen to it. By the way, it's spelled "hypocrite."

Anonymous said...

Obviously you are a liberal. Liberals only protect freedom of speech when it supports their causes. As noted before, you never banned any of the rappers that have, and continue to, rap about killing cops. Very disappointed by your actions.

Here is the truth about freedom of speech: I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend your right to say it.

You blew it. You are promoting censorship.

VVN Network said...

To Anonymous,

As was pointed out in the article, freedom of speech is not a total freedom to say anything you want according to the Supreme Court. Their famous example is that you do not have the right to yell fire in a crowded theater when there is, in fact, no fire.

The same goes for Mr. Nugent. He has the right to responsible free speech but calling for the shooting of about 50% of the American people by his followers falls well within the "fire in a theater" construct.

Our choice is, in no way, censorship. Mr. Nugent still has the ability to express his opinions in the way he sees fit. The American people also retain the right to respond to those opinions in the way that they feel is appropriate. For VVN Music, we have chosen not to report on or pass along Mr. Nugent's misguided and possibly dangerous rhetoric.

This is not a liberal or a conservative agenda. The only agenda is one of decency and not spreading his hateful, violent words.

Clayton Warner said...

Will you be doing the same to Cher, Madonna, Green Day, Pearl Jam, Snoop Dogg and their ilk who espouse hate and violence against our police and all who do not ascribe to their leftist politics. You have not done a noble deed here, instead, your subjective bias is showing as bright as the midday sun.

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